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Persona 4 Golden dialogue
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Context:The lecture covers archetypes, the basic elements that structure the psyche.
Mr. Edogawa
MSG_000
Hello there, everyone. It's time for
"Mr. Edogawa's TV Classroom."
"Everyone Loves Jungian Psychology!"
An invitation to the you that you
don't know.
Avoiding the eyes of the underground world
order, here comes our fourth installment:
"Archetypes: The Structure of the Psyche."
Huh? You want to know more about that
world order I just mentioned...? I'll
tell you about it later. Eeeheehee...
Let's begin the lecture. Namah
kasagarbhaya, om arika mari muri svaha...
"Mr. Edogawa's TV Classroom."
"Everyone Loves Jungian Psychology!"
An invitation to the you that you
don't know.
Avoiding the eyes of the underground world
order, here comes our fourth installment:
"Archetypes: The Structure of the Psyche."
Huh? You want to know more about that
world order I just mentioned...? I'll
tell you about it later. Eeeheehee...
Let's begin the lecture. Namah
kasagarbhaya, om arika mari muri svaha...
[f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 4 6 50 1 0 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Hello there, everyone. It's time for[n]"Mr. Edogawa's TV Classroom."[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]"Everyone Loves Jungian Psychology!"[n]An invitation to the you that you[n]don't know.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0][f 4 9 50 3 5 0 5][f 4 8 50 10]Avoiding the eyes of the underground world[n]order, here comes our fourth installment:[n]"Archetypes: The Structure of the Psyche."[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Huh? You want to know more about that[n]world order I just mentioned...? I'll[n]tell you about it later. Eeeheehee...[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Let's begin the lecture. Namah[n]kasagarbhaya, om arika mari muri svaha...[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e]
Mr. Edogawa
MSG_001
For the past couple of lessons, I've
pestered you with explanations of the
unconscious...
So I think that I've at least succeeded
in snapping you out of the delusion that
you're the ruler of your own mind!
Today, we'll further our knowledge...
So let's focus our studies on the
unconscious, particularly the
collective unconscious.
pestered you with explanations of the
unconscious...
So I think that I've at least succeeded
in snapping you out of the delusion that
you're the ruler of your own mind!
Today, we'll further our knowledge...
So let's focus our studies on the
unconscious, particularly the
collective unconscious.
[f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 4 6 50 1 0 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]For the past couple of lessons, I've[n]pestered you with explanations of the[n]unconscious...[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]So I think that I've at least succeeded[n]in snapping you out of the delusion that[n]you're the ruler of your own mind![n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Today, we'll further our knowledge...[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]So let's focus our studies on the[n]unconscious, particularly the[n]collective unconscious.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e]
Mr. Edogawa
MSG_002
In our minds, we have the conscious and
unconscious.
You probably see the unconscious as a
deep ocean, a lonely place with nothing
around...
But Jung actually thought of it as a
place filled with mind-energy that can
jolt your emotions.
Why did he think this?
It's because he discovered a special
property held by the collective
unconscious.
We've already studied that the collective
unconscious is shared by mankind, and
that it's been there since birth.
So in the deepest part of the collective
unconscious lies... the "beginning of
the mind," created at birth.
Now then, what's in there?
The "beginning of the mind" has the basic
elements needed when the mind develops.
The power of the mind, the ability
to recognize patterns.
Jung called these elements "archetypes."
What allows for this basic ability of
the collective unconscious to recognize
patterns is archetypes.
unconscious.
You probably see the unconscious as a
deep ocean, a lonely place with nothing
around...
But Jung actually thought of it as a
place filled with mind-energy that can
jolt your emotions.
Why did he think this?
It's because he discovered a special
property held by the collective
unconscious.
We've already studied that the collective
unconscious is shared by mankind, and
that it's been there since birth.
So in the deepest part of the collective
unconscious lies... the "beginning of
the mind," created at birth.
Now then, what's in there?
The "beginning of the mind" has the basic
elements needed when the mind develops.
The power of the mind, the ability
to recognize patterns.
Jung called these elements "archetypes."
What allows for this basic ability of
the collective unconscious to recognize
patterns is archetypes.
[f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 4 6 50 1 0 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]In our minds, we have the conscious and[n]unconscious.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]You probably see the unconscious as a[n]deep ocean, a lonely place with nothing[n]around...[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]But Jung actually thought of it as a[n]place filled with mind-energy that can[n]jolt your emotions.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Why did he think this?[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0][f 4 9 50 3 5 0 5][f 4 8 50 10]It's because he discovered a special[n]property held by the collective[n]unconscious.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]We've already studied that the collective[n]unconscious is shared by mankind, and[n]that it's been there since birth.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]So in the deepest part of the collective[n]unconscious lies... the "beginning of[n]the mind," created at birth.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Now then, what's in there?[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0][f 4 9 50 3 5 0 5][f 4 8 50 10]The "beginning of the mind" has the basic[n]elements needed when the mind develops.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]The power of the mind, the ability[n]to recognize patterns.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Jung called these elements "archetypes."[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]What allows for this basic ability of[n]the collective unconscious to recognize[n]patterns is archetypes.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e]
Mr. Edogawa
MSG_003
Jung says that "the collective unconscious
is made up of archetypes."
In other words, "archetypes" form the
collective unconscious.
There are, in theory, limitless archetypes,
and Jung names some of them.
Let's take a look at the "example
archetypes."
is made up of archetypes."
In other words, "archetypes" form the
collective unconscious.
There are, in theory, limitless archetypes,
and Jung names some of them.
Let's take a look at the "example
archetypes."
[f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Jung says that "the collective unconscious[n]is made up of archetypes."[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]In other words, "archetypes" form the[n]collective unconscious.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]There are, in theory, limitless archetypes,[n]and Jung names some of them.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Let's take a look at the "example[n]archetypes."[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e]
Mr. Edogawa
MSG_004
I told you earlier that Jung found the
collective unconscious by finding a
"pattern" in myths and old tales, right?
That pattern itself is the classic example
of an archetype.
For example, in most ancient religions,
there is a "mother goddess" that is
worshipped.
There have even been statues and pictures of
mother goddesses found in ancient ruins.
Man has felt this "motherly" image since
ancient times; it is an archetype that has
been created in our minds.
Now then, about that image of the
"mother..."
What function does this hold as the
"foundation of the mind's power to
recognize patterns"?
Try this out: think of the concept of a
"mother." Inside your mind...
You think of the power to give birth,
the power to love, to hold someone
dearly, right?
This archetype that creates this motherly
image is known as the "Great Mother."
Of the infinite archetypes, it is one of
the more important ones. Interesting,
isn't it?
Huh? You're still wondering about that
world order? You'll just have to suck it
up this lecture. Eeeheehee...
Next, I'll do a quick explanation of
some other archetypes.
collective unconscious by finding a
"pattern" in myths and old tales, right?
That pattern itself is the classic example
of an archetype.
For example, in most ancient religions,
there is a "mother goddess" that is
worshipped.
There have even been statues and pictures of
mother goddesses found in ancient ruins.
Man has felt this "motherly" image since
ancient times; it is an archetype that has
been created in our minds.
Now then, about that image of the
"mother..."
What function does this hold as the
"foundation of the mind's power to
recognize patterns"?
Try this out: think of the concept of a
"mother." Inside your mind...
You think of the power to give birth,
the power to love, to hold someone
dearly, right?
This archetype that creates this motherly
image is known as the "Great Mother."
Of the infinite archetypes, it is one of
the more important ones. Interesting,
isn't it?
Huh? You're still wondering about that
world order? You'll just have to suck it
up this lecture. Eeeheehee...
Next, I'll do a quick explanation of
some other archetypes.
[f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 4 6 50 1 0 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]I told you earlier that Jung found the[n]collective unconscious by finding a[n]"pattern" in myths and old tales, right?[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]That pattern itself is the classic example[n]of an archetype.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0][f 4 9 50 3 5 0 5][f 4 8 50 10]For example, in most ancient religions,[n]there is a "mother goddess" that is[n]worshipped.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]There have even been statues and pictures of[n]mother goddesses found in ancient ruins.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Man has felt this "motherly" image since[n]ancient times; it is an archetype that has[n]been created in our minds.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0][f 4 9 50 3 5 0 5][f 4 8 50 10]Now then, about that image of the[n]"mother..."[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]What function does this hold as the[n]"foundation of the mind's power to[n]recognize patterns"?[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Try this out: think of the concept of a[n]"mother." Inside your mind...[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]You think of the power to give birth,[n]the power to love, to hold someone[n]dearly, right?[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0][f 4 9 50 3 5 0 5][f 4 8 50 10]This archetype that creates this motherly[n]image is known as the "Great Mother."[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Of the infinite archetypes, it is one of[n]the more important ones. Interesting,[n]isn't it?[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Huh? You're still wondering about that[n]world order? You'll just have to suck it[n]up this lecture. Eeeheehee...[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Next, I'll do a quick explanation of[n]some other archetypes.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e]
Mr. Edogawa
MSG_005
The "Wise Old Man" incurs the image of
an old man, with the properties of
"knowledgeable, teacher, mentor."
Then there's the "Shadow," which
I've mentioned before. This is also
an archetype.
The Shadow archetype is a dark figure,
and represents the properties of the hated,
things you don't want to have or be.
Just like Shadows, we have "Personas."
Coming from the word for "mask," this
again is an archetype.
From the imagery of hiding one's own
face, its property is "your role in
society."
And one unique group of archetypes
include...
The female anima and male animus images
are found only in males and females,
respectively, and depend on gender.
...I'm only giving a few examples, but
as you can see, archetypes are incredibly
rich in variety.
Boy, today's lesson was a doozy, wasn't
it? Are all my lessons like this? Maybe
so. Eeeheehee...
Well, I'll make your quiz easy, at the
very least. Get your buttons ready.
...Are you ready? All right, I ask thee.
What function do "archetypes" have
within the mind?
an old man, with the properties of
"knowledgeable, teacher, mentor."
Then there's the "Shadow," which
I've mentioned before. This is also
an archetype.
The Shadow archetype is a dark figure,
and represents the properties of the hated,
things you don't want to have or be.
Just like Shadows, we have "Personas."
Coming from the word for "mask," this
again is an archetype.
From the imagery of hiding one's own
face, its property is "your role in
society."
And one unique group of archetypes
include...
The female anima and male animus images
are found only in males and females,
respectively, and depend on gender.
...I'm only giving a few examples, but
as you can see, archetypes are incredibly
rich in variety.
Boy, today's lesson was a doozy, wasn't
it? Are all my lessons like this? Maybe
so. Eeeheehee...
Well, I'll make your quiz easy, at the
very least. Get your buttons ready.
...Are you ready? All right, I ask thee.
What function do "archetypes" have
within the mind?
[f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 4 6 50 1 0 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]The "Wise Old Man" incurs the image of[n]an old man, with the properties of[n]"knowledgeable, teacher, mentor."[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Then there's the "Shadow," which[n]I've mentioned before. This is also[n]an archetype.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0][f 4 9 50 3 5 0 5][f 4 8 50 10]The Shadow archetype is a dark figure,[n]and represents the properties of the hated,[n]things you don't want to have or be.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Just like Shadows, we have "Personas."[n]Coming from the word for "mask," this[n]again is an archetype.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0][f 4 9 50 3 5 0 5][f 4 8 50 10]From the imagery of hiding one's own[n]face, its property is "your role in[n]society."[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]And one unique group of archetypes[n]include...[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]The female anima and male animus images[n]are found only in males and females,[n]respectively, and depend on gender.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0][f 4 9 50 3 5 0 5][f 4 8 50 10]...I'm only giving a few examples, but[n]as you can see, archetypes are incredibly[n]rich in variety.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Boy, today's lesson was a doozy, wasn't[n]it? Are all my lessons like this? Maybe[n]so. Eeeheehee...[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Well, I'll make your quiz easy, at the[n]very least. Get your buttons ready.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0][f 4 9 50 3 5 0 5][f 4 8 50 10]...Are you ready? All right, I ask thee.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]What function do "archetypes" have[n]within the mind?[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e]
SEL_006
- "The power to remember."
- "The power to recognize."
- "The power to think."
[f 0 5 65278][f 2 1]"The power to remember."[e]
[f 0 5 65278][f 2 1]"The power to recognize."[e]
[f 0 5 65278][f 2 1]"The power to think."[e]
Response to selection: "The power to remember."
Mr. Edogawa
MSG_007
...Wrong. You were winging it, huh?
Archetypes aren't about the power to
remember, but to recognize. Make sure
you remember this, okay?
Archetypes aren't about the power to
remember, but to recognize. Make sure
you remember this, okay?
[f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 4 6 50 1 0 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]...Wrong. You were winging it, huh?[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Archetypes aren't about the power to[n]remember, but to recognize. Make sure[n]you remember this, okay?[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e]
Response to selection: "The power to recognize."
Mr. Edogawa
MSG_008
Good one. That's what I was talking about
all this time.
all this time.
[f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 4 6 50 1 0 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Good one. That's what I was talking about[n]all this time.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e]
Response to selection: "The power to think."
Mr. Edogawa
MSG_009
...This is disappointing. You weren't
thinking yourself, were you?
Archetypes aren't about the power to
think, but to recognize. Make sure
you remember this, okay?
thinking yourself, were you?
Archetypes aren't about the power to
think, but to recognize. Make sure
you remember this, okay?
[f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 4 6 50 1 0 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]...This is disappointing. You weren't[n]thinking yourself, were you?[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Archetypes aren't about the power to[n]think, but to recognize. Make sure[n]you remember this, okay?[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e]
Mr. Edogawa
MSG_010
The idea of the "archetype" is the central
theory to Jungian psychology.
I'm not going to ask you to master the
details, but I hope you can get the
basics down.
Starting next time, I'm going to go into
in-depth descriptions of some of these
archetypes.
theory to Jungian psychology.
I'm not going to ask you to master the
details, but I hope you can get the
basics down.
Starting next time, I'm going to go into
in-depth descriptions of some of these
archetypes.
[f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 4 6 50 1 0 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]The idea of the "archetype" is the central[n]theory to Jungian psychology.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]I'm not going to ask you to master the[n]details, but I hope you can get the[n]basics down.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Starting next time, I'm going to go into[n]in-depth descriptions of some of these[n]archetypes.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e]
Mr. Edogawa
MSG_011
Some of you may have noticed by now, but
I've mentioned "ties of the mind to
mythology" several times.
In order to explain Jung's theories,
many myths and analyses of them are
brought up.
You can say that mythology is a key point
of Jungian psychology.
I think the general opinion of "mythology"
is folklore based off history, with a lot
of fantasy thrown in.
But it seems that Jung sees myths as
stories that are reflected and born
from the minds of people.
To over-simplify it... Gods and demons
were created by the human mind.
It's a hard idea for religious-minded
people to swallow, but that was the
central idea.
I've mentioned "ties of the mind to
mythology" several times.
In order to explain Jung's theories,
many myths and analyses of them are
brought up.
You can say that mythology is a key point
of Jungian psychology.
I think the general opinion of "mythology"
is folklore based off history, with a lot
of fantasy thrown in.
But it seems that Jung sees myths as
stories that are reflected and born
from the minds of people.
To over-simplify it... Gods and demons
were created by the human mind.
It's a hard idea for religious-minded
people to swallow, but that was the
central idea.
[f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 4 6 50 1 0 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]Some of you may have noticed by now, but[n]I've mentioned "ties of the mind to[n]mythology" several times.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]In order to explain Jung's theories,[n]many myths and analyses of them are[n]brought up.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0][f 4 9 50 3 5 0 5][f 4 8 50 10]You can say that mythology is a key point[n]of Jungian psychology.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]I think the general opinion of "mythology"[n]is folklore based off history, with a lot[n]of fantasy thrown in.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]But it seems that Jung sees myths as[n]stories that are reflected and born[n]from the minds of people.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0][f 4 9 50 3 5 0 5][f 4 8 50 10]To over-simplify it... Gods and demons[n]were created by the human mind.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e][f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]It's a hard idea for religious-minded[n]people to swallow, but that was the[n]central idea.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e]
Mr. Edogawa
MSG_012
...Now then, it looks like our time
here is up. That's it for today.
here is up. That's it for today.
[f 0 5 65278][f 2 1][f 4 6 50 1 0 1][f 3 1 1 0 0 0]...Now then, it looks like our time[n]here is up. That's it for today.[n][f 1 3 65535][f 1 1][e]
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